What to do about defiance in a child

 Many parents hate defiance in a child, meaning most in this country. Most don't know what to do about such a child. The fact of the matter is that defiance comes from a mirroring mechanism in children, where they mirror attitudes from parents and other adults they emulate in life.

It says in Colossians 3:20-21 KJV:

Children, obey your parents in all things, as is well-pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they become discouraged.

The Greek root word translated "provoke...to anger" is υπακουο (Latin: hupakouo) and refers to secure, vulnerable rest and trust in the love and grace of parents, being able to share anything with parents, and be oneself, owing absolutely nothing towards parents, yet being grateful for the love and grace of parents leading to hearing their voice, understanding what parents want in a developmentally-appropriate manner, leading to heeding instruction based on the imprint of the parent's reassuring, soothing voice which always gets their attention. Some of us who have a secure attachment to a parent, even in adulthood, can perk up when we hear her keys going into the mailbox, or even a certain pattern of footstep that we naturally identify as hers. Usually, it is a mother in this society, but can be a father. This is linked to Christian love for a child, denoted by the Greek root word αγαπαο (Latin: agapao) and refers to being struck with reverent fear and terror by a child's every vulnerable need, leading to surrendering to God through your child, submitting to God as an enemy, just as mankind is the enemy of God and has to make amends with Him, sacrificing for one's child just as Christ sacrificed for the good of His children, shielding them from blame, with parents rendering themselves beneath a child, devaluing oneself to that level as a parent, ministering to and serving a child from that level, with shamefacedness and humility, with the child in place of God (Matt. 25:31-46), expecting absolutely nothing in return.

The Greek root word translated "provoke...to anger" is ερεθιζο (Latin: erethizo) and refers to the offenses, meaning anything the child takes offense to by their perception, coming from a place of parental entitlement in parents/adults, meaning wanting things from a child to the point of imposing said want onto a child, as denoted by the Greek root word πλεονέκτης (Latin: pleonektés). Entitlement of this sort can be emulated in a child's behavior, which is what the Apostle Paul was warning the Christian church at Colossae, where fathers were using idolatrous parenting customs that included whipping of young boys and ritual spanking of teenage girls who were "unchaste", both part of the surrounding Hellenistic culture. Christian purity meant shunning the old pagan ways, and not punishing a child ever, as is the Hebraic understanding of the Bible.

Ultimately, Paul was making a statement referring to secure attachment. Secure attachment brings out in children strong emotion towards parents that they would never share elsewhere, and should also being forth openness of communication. Attachment is like a mirror of your own attitudes towards your child. If your child is oppositional and defiant, that shows how you appear to them and their needs. When you defy a child's needs by controlling and punishing them as a form of "benign" deprivation (as I endured in my authoritative upbringing), they treat you back with the same brush, meaning when you beat them, they will always resist control, as is the flawed nature of children. Counterwill is the term used by psychologists, meaning the more you control a child, the more they control back, meaning the most controlling, defiant children in a school setting are probably the most controlled at home. Children usually defy, pout, or cry to advocate for a need, as they many times do not have the vocabulary to advocate their every need, and need adults to diagnose their needs by trial and error, not even just as infants, but as even older children to some degree.

Attachment parenting then was the norm in Jewish circles of the Christian community then, as well as the Old Testament, with the child abuse problem ending up being in the gentile, Greek circles of believers, where the Apostle Paul was often called to call on churches to crack down on pro-spanking parents, meaning excommunicate them for kidnapping. The Law forbade any entitled act which could be perceived as an offense by your neighbor, and that included children. Children ruled from beneath, meaning they made demands on their parents, and demand had to be met with supply. Parents were not seen as authority figures then, but servants to their children, with young children up to age 3 swaddled to their mothers and treated as infants, with older children playing in close range to mothers, with her reassuring, motherly voice calling them back when they stray too far, due to the dangerous hazards in the desert...The modern day message is that parents, by the biblical understanding, are safe persons for the child, meaning safe outlets to show their emotions to, using parents as a pro-social punching bag in that regard.

The depraved and entitled parents who provoke children to anger will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Let them burn and rot in the lake of fire and burning sulfur, which is the second death prepared for Satan and his accomplices. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

Why anger is not acceptable in parenting under biblical law

Many parents abuse their children, meaning most, with the adults of the world pointing to them in promote format. Most child abuse in this country is not due to pedophilia, but due to anger. Parental entitlement is the most common source of child abuse, in terms of motives, meaning parents and adults want control over children, most of the time expressed in terms of physical/verbal aggression or else sexual aggression (pedophilia). 

Christ said on the Sermon on the Mount, in Matthew 5:21-22 KJV:

Ye have heard it said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Note the underlined. "Without a cause" means that unless you have intent to take your neighbor to court, meaning moral court and not necessarily civil court, being angry to the point of fits of anger is sin. This can mean, in relation to other adults, at the very least and most minutest, whatever the victim/plaintiff perceives as offensive or an offense, signaling entitled intent to control, harass, demand, or beg. Christ's command to "turn the other cheek" (Matt. 5:39-40), however, says to apply Law flexibly and selectively, meaning brush off petty insults from other people, including children. However, children are not subject to the Law, but live under the grace, meaning shelter, of parents, and are merely learning the Law. Therefore, any offense taken against a child is an offense taken against God, for children are in place of God as the "least of these" (Matt. 25:31-46). Parents are not to get angry with their children, or lash out at them, and if they have this habit, they are to struggle against it until it is all gone and subdued. It says in Ephesians 6:1-4 KJV:

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor thy father and mother, as this is the first commandment with promise, That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live upon the earth. And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

The Greek root word translated "nurture" is παιδεία (Latin: paideia) and refers to the chastening of the Lord, meaning self-discipline and self-control of an exemplary type by parents, with parents listening to children and validating their every emotion and upset, not being offended or being provoked to fits of anger, but centering that anger by stifling it, setting a disciplined, non-entitled example for children, in a listening manner, responding to a child's every need instead of reacting to behaviors with anger. The Greek root word translated "admonition" is νουθεσία (Latin: nouthesia) and refers to the admonition of the Lord, meaning the word "no" or its various variants, and other forms of setting limits and boundaries. This should be done rarely, and only with both firmness and warmth. This is weighed by the Greek root word translated "provoke...to wrath" is παροργιζο (Latin: parorgizo) and is one of the Greek words in the New Testament that refer to the offenses, meaning the torts and damages under the Eighth Commandment, including assault and battery laws that protected children as well as adults, summed up in the New Testament as the slightest of offense taken against an adult's behavior by a child, on a visceral level determined by sensory gaslighting. This included any sort of physical punishment of children.

The Greek root word translated "obey" is υπακουο (Latin: hupakouo) and refers to secure, vulnerable rest and trust in the love and grace of parents, being able to be oneself in relation to parents, sharing anything with them, with children owing absolutely nothing in relation to parents, yet with children nonetheless showing their gratitude for providing custody by listening to the voice of their parents, understanding based on their developmental capacity or lack thereof, leading to children heeding instruction based on the comfort and familiarity of their parents' voice, by way of voice imprinting and not fear of punishment. This is done by way of Christian love denoted by the Greek root word αγαπαο (Latin: agapao) and refers to conviction of one's depraved and wicked sin nature in relation to children, leading to surrender of one's power and control over children to their footstool, submitting to God through your child and their every need as an enemy, just as mankind is the enemy of God, and submits, paying due penance for Him. Parents are to sacrifice for their children just as Christ sacrificed for His children, rendering oneself beneath one's child, devaluing oneself to that level as a parent, teaching your children from that level, with children in place of God, expecting absolutely nothing in return from children.

Attachment parenting was the norm in ancient Israel and adjoining churches, meaning children up to age 3 were swaddled next to mothers, and older children played in range next to mothers, being called back simply by her soothing, reassuring voice, and not any threat of punishment. Punishment against anyone was illegal under Jewish law outside of proper due process, including imposing any anger on another person. Children could not stand trial for a moral crime under Jewish law because they were deemed legally illiterate and incompetent, meaning they had to be taught the Law first, then be liable to it. Anger was seen in the Early Church as a man's righteous judgment, and otherwise was to be centered and forgotten, presuming innocence in one's neighbor, beyond a reasonable doubt, and children regardless.

The depraved and entitled parents will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Let them burn and rot in the lake of burning sulfur, which is the second death prepared for Satan and his accomplices! Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand! 

The current political alignment of Opposing Parental Entitlement

This organization is based on fundamentalist Anabaptist pacifist values, meaning children have the right to be free from violence of all sorts, physical, mental, sexual. I myself, by way of calling myself a fundamentalist, simply mean I follow the whole Bible, meaning respect ALL of the Bible as the Infallible Word of God, and when you understand the whole context of the Bible, you come to my conclusions no matter who you are.

I am a Christian democrat, which is a moderate-conservative stance that can be lumped in with Blue Dog politics here in rust belt states like Pennsylvania. We find a way to take both sides of an issue, unless God's Law commands a clear absolute, which I definitely believe in. Different Christian democrats believe differently on absolutes, making some of us more progressive than others...It is, at the core, a more humane form of religious conservatism. 

At the core, I believe in being humane to others, but especially the smaller person that is innocent of wrongdoing. I don't usually interrogate others in real life to the degree I do in my posts, unless they really push my buttons. I presume innocence in my neighbor, working forward in the case of trying to prove if someone is guilty or entitled or not. I only shun entitled individuals, which all other moral crimes stem from, which means the whole world, as this world endorses parental entitlement. I use "you just lost a friend" gaslighting when someone in my circle comes out as pro-spanking. Otherwise, I assume righteously that everyone is an attachment parent and see those qualities in them, until they show their true colors, then I cut them off and send them packing.

"Conservative" can be a theological or political issue. When you let your theological conservatism guide your politics, you become a religious conservative, no matter how moderate you are about it. I base my whole worldview on the Bible, and based on what I know - which is a lot - I'll NEVER change my mind on the spanking issue.

I support an age of consent of 18, and future context ban on all sex outside of marriage. I support a spanking ban in a future context, and support making the public aware of the fact that spanking is already banned in the United States under natural law, by way of moral legal exchange with the rest of the conservative community, and America at large, on a page-to-page basis. Dormant advocate/pedophile.

Honor thy father and mother - Why this does not mean punishing your child

Many places in society tell children to honor their parents, and listen to their orders. The way it is set up is that children are made slaves to their parents, and their every "binding" command. The fact of the matter is that the Fifth Commandment is a hallmark in the history of children, as an improvement.

It says in Exodus 20:12 KJV:

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 

This is basically a ban on child sacrifice, as before the Ten Commandments, the Canaanite fathers could kill their children at any time, for any reason they saw fit. Under the new Fifth Commandment then, parents had to go through the state, meaning the court system. The Israelite government was a hitman in terms of justice, meaning the religious authorities were for hire based on a group of witnesses that warned the offender, when caught in the act, that they were transgressing, in a way the offender could understand. Usually, these were family members. Once the charges were pressed, every warning beforehand was made relevant, but not before then. In the case of a stubborn and rebellious son, none were executed, as society operated counter to the parent protection laws, and sided with the child, shaming the parents in a pro-social manner for wanting to put their child to death instead of allowing them to be a prodigal son like everyone else. The parents were suspected of being abusers by way of rumor - meaning "he must have learned that behavior from somewhere" - leading to immense pressure leading to parents recanting. The mentality then was that abusive parents deserved to be abused back, and the authorities went along with it as well. That was the attitude in the Early Church towards disobedient children as well - a product of belligerent parents, so why blame the victim? The abusive parents then got their just desserts. Parent abuse as a form of reverse gaslighting was a Hebrew tradition then.

It says in Colossians 3:20-21 KJV:

Children, obey your parents in all things, as is well-pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they become discouraged.

The Greek root word translated "obey" is υπακουο (Latin: hupakouo) and refers to secure, vulnerable trust and rest in parents, being able to tell parents everything, able to be yourself around your parents, not fearing punishment, not owing anything in return to parents, yet nonetheless showing gratitude by way of hearing the voice of parents, understanding what they mean in a way reflecting the child's development, and then obeying the reassuring, voice of parents imprinted on by the child. This is a form of mutual submission prompted by Christian love, as denoted by the Greek root word αγαπαο (Latin: agapao) and refers to selfless and dutiful submission to the every vulnerable need of children as their enemy, just as mankind is the enemy of God and is to submit to Him, knowing that all adults are guilty for their mere existence in relation to children due to the capacity to inflict harm, and be ignorant of the child's perspective, leading to sacrifice for a child just as Christ sacrificed for His children, rendering oneself beneath the child, devaluing oneself as serving her from a level beneath said child, with the child in place of God, expecting absolutely nothing in return. The Greek root word translated "provoke...to anger" is ερεθιζο (Latin: erethizo) and refers to the offenses in the Bible, meaning the torts and damages imposed by the Eighth Commandment, summed up in the New Testament as the slightest of offense taken by a child stemming from parental entitlement, meaning wanting things from children with parental control instincts to the point of seeking to impose said want onto a child, denoted by the Greek root word πλεονέκτης (Latin: pleonektés).

Attachment parenting was the norm in ancient Jewish culture, with children being swaddled next to mothers until age 3. Children remained close to parents, playing within range of parents, heeding to the voice of parents in a way where the voice of parents reassured children, and put them at ease enough to listen to the instructions of parents. 

Voice imprint is the scientific way to understand childhood submission to parents in the Bible, and it lasts until adulthood. If a parent's voice scares their child, then they really aren't a parent to them, and need to become a pro-social parent instead of being the default antisocial parent that they are. Whenever I even hear a certain set of keys or footstep, I know my mom is here, and I let a sigh of fresh air go through my nostrils. She is an attachment parent. Even as an adult, I get that notion from my mother, and my father now that he has apologized. Obeying the voice of parents comes out of familiarity and reassurance, not punishment or control.

The depraved and entitled parents will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Let them burn and rot in the ever-burning lake of fire and brimstone, which is the second death prepared for Satan and his accomplices! Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

Pro-social friendship: Why it is good for adults to be friends with children (especially parents)

Many parents believe that "I am your parent, not your friend". It is a belief that children are property and chattel, and not human beings in their own right. The Bible does allow for parents to be friends with children, but only on specific non-entitled grounds.

It says in Colossians 3:20-21 KJV:

Children, obey your parents in all things, as is well-pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they become discouraged.

The Greek root word translated "obey" is υπακουο (Latin: hupakouo) and refers to secure, vulnerable rest in the love and grace of parents, being able to be oneself and tell parents everything and anything under the sun, including things that society deems taboo, owing nothing in return to parents, yet nonetheless showing gratitude for parents by hearing the voice of parents, understanding parental wishes on their developmental level, then heeding instructions based on imprint on a parent's voice, and not fear of punishment. This is based on Christian love for children, as denoted in the New Testament by the Greek root word αγαπαο (Latin: agapao) and refers to dutiful and selfless submission to a child as her enemy, just as mankind is the enemy of God, and is to pay due penance through bondservice to children, due to the sinful non-existence of adults in relation to capacity to harm and ignorance of such done to children, sacrificing for her every vulnerable need as Christ sacrificed for His children, lowering oneself beneath His children, devaluing oneself in relation to children by serving their needs from beneath, propping the child up, heeding to the demands of the child with supplements and provisions, with the child being in place of God, expecting absolutely nothing in return.

The Greek root word translated "provoke...to anger" is ερεθιζο (Latin: erethizo) and refers to the offenses, meaning the torts and damages imposed by the Eighth Commandment, including assault and battery laws that extend to children as well in terms of protection - striking a child was considered illegal in all respects, and that alone would get a parent excommunicated and shunned from the church community if defended in divorce court.

Attachment parenting was the norm in ancient Israel and adjoining churches. Attachment parenting is simply being friends with your child, in a close way where parent and child are instinctively and intuitively in sync with each other, with the child being comforted and welcomed by the voice of their father or mother, but especially their mother. This is how parenting was in ancient Israel. Children up to age 3 were swaddled next to their mother, with this building a bond with both parents, with fathers being fun and encouraging with children, usually in a healthy way. Most child abuse in the Old Testament not from punitive parenting, but false encouragement of sons through getting them to do unlawful things, or daughters in the form of sexual abuse. The Early Church communities had a corporal punishment/physical abuse problem that Paul was indeed cracking down on in Col. 3:21, as well as Eph. 6:4. True biblical encouragement is exemplary encouragement, meaning centering oneself in the Lord in relation to a child, and encouraging, as a challenge, older children especially to be strict with themselves, being a role model for children.

The depraved and entitled parents who are either punitive and/or permissive will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Let them rot and burn in the lake of fire and burning sulfur, which is the second death prepared for Satan and his accomplices! Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

Why I answer to children (as an entitled adult)

Many parents abuse their children, usually through spanking and corporal punishment, and always out of power and control over children inherent of all adults in this country. What is the answer? Adults answering to children. I answer to their court.

Every single adult is guilty merely for existing in relation to children, and are to submit to God thorough their child as the enemy of said child, just as mankind is the enemy of God, and must pay due penance to Him by way of serving God by way of serving your child's every vulnerable need, sacrificing just as Christ sacrificed for His children, rendering yourself lower than your child, devaluing yourself as a servant at that level for her, expecting absolutely nothing in return, with her being extended by God for care and protection. This is denoted by the Greek root word αγαπαο (Latin: agapao) and refers to submission in the form of bondservice and indentured servitude towards a child's needs...selflessly submitting to them, being subject to the authority of their every need (including attachment needs).

All of us as adults have issues we struggle with a child abuse problem in relation to children, usually linked to childhood trauma and PTSD. Most adults in our modern society have an anger problem towards children. I myself have a sexual entitlement problem in relation to children, meaning I am a self-diagnosed pedophile. I have a lust problem in relation to children - inordinate affections which are kept at bay by way of pro-social fantasy/dial. I admit I am evil and wicked in relation to children, tar myself to myself with this fact, and then center myself in relation to children, like a chastity girdle. Pro-social abstinence, pro-social aware. I am aware of that side of me all day, 24/7, at some level, meaning usually attaching sexual connotations onto a child, meaning I often find myself securely attached to children when with them, but with girls it means something sexual/limerent to me, even though it usually doesn't mean that to them except on a supervisory level. Young girls supervise my behavior. They are the most equitable in society in their pro-social hatred of pedophiles, meaning they hate the condition at a level that it doesn't even exist to them except when it exist, in which case children are wired to flame any aggressive instinct directed towards them away from them, usually vulnerability but many times, in my case, with righteous sarcasm and pro-social scolding...They just kick your rear end out of the ballpark, and you are passive enough to let them when you trust and accept children totally...The urge to spank is not much different. Many parents who are anti-spanking do daydream about their child unfairly, meaning wanting to hurt them. Pedophilia is the same way, only it feels better viscerally.

ALL adults, pedophile or non-pedophile, are to submit to children in order to earn the cooperation of children. It says in Colossians 3:20-21 KJV:

Children, obey your parents in all things, as is well-pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they become discouraged.

The Greek root word translated "obey" is υπακουο (Latin: hupakouo) and refers to secure, vulnerable trust and rest in the care and safety of parents, being able to be oneself in relation to children, and also tell parents anything, owing adults absolutely nothing in return, being grateful by listening to the voice of parents, understanding why parents are right based on developmental level, and then heeding instruction based on voice imprint. The Greek root word translated "provoke...to anger" is ερεθιζο (Latin: erethizo) and refers to the offenses in the Bible, referring to the torts and damages system under the Eighth Commandment, summed up as the slightest of offense taken by a child in relation to entitled adult behavior. Adults need to behave themselves in relation to children, and stop striking, punishing, and sexually assaulting children...Because we all know it comes from one entitled place - parental entitlement, the arch nemesis of this page in societal format.

A child owes me nothing. I deserve everything bad and hateful from a child because of my sin nature in relation to them, and nothing good or caring. I am a flawed, wretched adult in relation to children, and I am not entitled to anything from a child on the level of speech

Parental entitlement is feeling that children owe you things, defined by the Greek root word πλεονέκτης (Latin: pleonektés) and refers to wanting something from a child to the point of seeking to impose said want onto a child, leading to abuse by way of offense. Parents should instead see their children as the authority figures they are in relation to children, being struck with reverent fear and terror of harming their child, leading to improvement in the parent, meaning a girdle of non-entitlement around the parent, with the parent surrendering their power and authority over children at their footstool.

Attachment parenting was the norm in ancient Israel. Parents were not perfect, but were conditioned to society to answer to their children, meaning their needs, including benign wants such as spending time with parents. Parents were seen as servants to children, not authority figures, with children seen as the authority over their own needs, and seen as extensions of Christ in the Early Church.

The depraved and entitled parents will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Let them burn and rot in the lake of fire and burning sulfur, which is the second death prepared for Satan and his angels. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

Total acceptance coming from total submission to children: Why to submit to children as a parent

Many parents claim to love and accept their children, yet don't. They punish and control their children, exerting their adult power and control as a parent. The fact of the matter is that parenting is not about "being the boss" and is about surrender. Surrendering yourself to children as a parent. That is what parenting is about.

Every single parent/adult is guilty merely for existing in relation to children, and is to surrender to God through their child as their enemy, just as mankind is the enemy of God, knowing one's capacity and ignorance in relation to children in terms of harm and abuse. This involves sacrificing for one's child just as Christ sacrificed for His children, turning oneself into the guard that is your child, just as Christ did for a crime He didn't commit. Parents are to devalue themselves as a servant for their children, leading to good works for their child. The Greek root word for this Christian love is αγαπαο (Latin: agapao) and refers to service to your neighbor, including your child, just for the sake of doing good, leading to total acceptance of a child as children are grateful and listening. It says in Colossians 3:20-21 KJV:

Children, obey your parents in all things, as is well-pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest this become discouraged.

The Greek root word translated "obey" is υπακουο (Latin: hupakouo) and refers to secure, vulnerable trust and rest in the care and safety of parents, being able to say anything, do anything, or be oneself in relation to parents, and not fear punishment or reprisal, leading to hearing the voice of parents, understanding what parents ask of them, and obeying not out of fear of their voice, but out of familiar comfort. This is how I obey and honor my mother. I even can recognize her keys over anyone else's once I hear them, and her footstep somehow. This can happen AFTER apologizing to children about abuse towards them, not just BEFORE. My mother used time-out, and it didn't work. I just got extremely enraged and just couldn't sit still as a toddler. I can still make demands and jump up and down begging like I could as a child with my mom, like I can't with anyone else. 

That's how parents were in biblical times, with children ranging close to mothers, playing freely otherwise, instinctively not leaving her side. Children were swaddled next to their mother, with infancy lasting up to age 3. Attachment parenting was the norm in ancient Israel and adjoining churches, particularly in Jewish circles in the Early Church. The Early Church did have child abuse problems which the Apostle Paul cracked down in the churches at Colossae and Ephesus respectively - he was not a perfect man, and he admitted it even in Holy Writing, but used his religious anger for the right reasons, or tried to. This happened to be chosen as Holy Writing, and we need this in churches ever more than before. The Hebraic understanding of parenting is based on attachment, not fear of punishment or authority. That is an idolatrous Greco-Roman concept that has seeped into our Church by way of Catholic infiltration.

Obeying the voice of parents means feeling safe in a perky way, like a gentle pull, when your parents call your name - meaning not dread at all. Same when someone wants to call your parents. Both of my abusive parents apologized, so I know both sides of the aisle. My parents were more effective at understanding and empathizing with me AFTER apologizing in my mid-teens. They surrendered to me, and I am grateful. I might not show it sometimes, but I am...The one thing to know in parenting is that the more your child demands things, and the louder, the more grateful they are of you. Why? That's your job - to provide for them. 

The depraved and entitled parents will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Corporal punishment of children shall not exist within the several states and territories of the United States of America, and once a parent identifies with such abuse, they shouldn't exist, but since murder is wrong, they shall simply not exist on this earth once all is banned - and God ordained it all. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!