Many parents seek to defend punishing children, and feel like it is a right to do so to their children. This is what we call parent/adult entitlement. Many here are opposed to punishment, whereas some are like me - punishment of parents is the right thing to do. Punish them all. Lock them all up.
What is kidnapping? Most people think they know, yet they do not know the extent of such a law. Grabbing a child from a parent's providing custody is kidnapping, but a parent violating a child while in his/her providing custody is kidnapping. Mutual submission is how kidnapping disputes are settled, in the case of lawful child abuse.
Abuse of this God-ordained parent-to-parent system involves literal abduction of the child, meaning forcible removal of said child, disregarding existent custody status of the parents. Parent-to-parent gaslighting is about flipping up burgers, and a pedophile is a parent under this system, hated and damned by God on the level of all parents.
All parents, without exception, and all adults also, are marked for deletion merely for existing in relation to God. All parents can be assumed, from an angle, to be guilty of abuse, but one must presume innocence in parents beyond a reasonable doubt.
What was justice like for parents in the Early Christian churches. Everyone was asking you questions, interrogating you about your parenting, with the first person likely being your wife, and then her divorcing you with the children. Then, the more the ex-father of the child defended his parental rights, the more he was questioned and harped for the allegation, and then the church community, as a whole, excommunicated the perpetrator. Children were secondary witnesses then - to their mother, usually against abuse from the father of the child, which could, in fact, including spanking or corporal punishment.
The New Testament is the side of the Bible that tells Christians how to apply Law, and all of this procedure is included in the meaning of John 7:24 and 1 Cor. 5:11, but can be applied in terms of individual pro-social honesty judgment of parents, when necessary. I usually simply count the dead, which is many, leaving the rest up to the Lord.
When I depart from you on parenting, that is a punishment. That is not a threat of punishment, but a punishment in and of itself, and if you have nothing to hide and/or quite a bit to regret, there is no reason to worry, because I only shun entitled parents, not regret parents. Pro-social avoidance/consignment, pro-social judgment, pro-social judgmental (with like-minded people).
Our parents here at gentle parenting? Good parents, and I side with ALL of them, because anyone who abuses a child in any way is not a gentle parent.
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